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Hi all, I am in the second week of Block 2 of the P90X3 Mass Schedule. For those not familiar with the Mass Schedule in block 2 Eccentric Upper and Eccentric Lower is done twice a week with YogaX3 and MMX once a week. I have done Eccentric Upper 3 times in the last week and a half as set by the schedule. I am looking for advice from those familiar with Eccentric Upper. I use a pull-up bar and push up bars.
1) I find doing 10 reps of each exercise, particularly the pull ups to be taxing. I start off doing 10 reps but often find by mid way I am only able to do 7-8 reps. I sometimes pause to get all 10 in and this extends the workout an additional 15 minutes. I can't tell if I am weak or if the Eccentric motions are just that tough. A lot of my pull ups are assisted with a chair. I can dole out about 5 or 6 then I need the assist. But by midway I can dole out maybe 2 or 3 then the rest are assisted and I usually struggle up to 7 or 8. Push ups I always do 10, sometimes with a break in between.
2) I find the rocket kickbacks to be hard because of the stance which throws me off balance. Am I doing this wrong or is that the point? I have dropped my weight on these to 10lbs which I have found more stabilization.
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3) Despite my exhaustion I am barely if at all sore the day after. My first time doing Eccentric Upper I was sore two days after. Two days later doing it again I felt fine the day after and after my third go I only feel like soreness on my shoulders.
Eccentric exercises for arm muscles with weights. While sitting on a chair, take a weight and clasp it firmly in one hand. Ensuring your upper arm is held close to your body and your palm is facing upwards, bend the arm at the elbow to lift the hand and weight until your lower and upper arm are at a 45° angle. Eccentric Upper Workout Moves: Standard Push Up. Standard Pull Up. Military Press. Military Push Ups. Deep Swimmers Press. Fly Push Ups.
Has anyone else experienced any of this? Should I always make sure I do 10 reps? Am I not working hard enough? After I shower and drink my protein shake I drop down to try regular pushups to see if I am tired and I find I can't really dish out 5 of them with good form so I assume my body has indeed reached the limit it needed. I'm unsure/insecure because Eccentric movements are new to me. I appreciate the advice and feedback!
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I am currently on my third P90x cycle. I did the original P90x followed by P90x3. I'm 6'0 167 lbs and I really didn't need to lose more weight, so I decided to do P90x3 mass.
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What I didn't realize is There is a 7 week stretch where you do Eccentric Upper 12 times.
I've always been a skinny guy, and I have never been able to build much upper body mass. My performance on upper body workouts is modest to say the least, but I've gotten to the point where I can at least do most push up/pull up exercises in the program without stopping or modifying.
That is with one big exception...Eccentric Upper.
From the start after you finish the standard pushups you already know your ass is about to get kicked. I don't even try to do the pull ups/chin ups without a chair assist. It's the only way I can even do 10 reps on those.
When it's time for military push ups and I see them raise legs...I immediately go 'fuck that' and start seriously decreasing my range of motion by #6. Also, Tony fucks with your rhythm several times during pushups. He will say 1....3....up! Or you will already be near the floor when he says 1. I still haven't been able to adjust.
So I'm already feeling woozy after the fly pushups, which means it's a perfect time for the hardest exercise in P90x3. V pull ups. I get to about 5 chair assisted reps before my body just hangs there. It won't go up again.
Then we start mixing in a bunch of exercises in rocket launcher stance. I'm sorry, but I have a hard enough time maintaining a crescent pose with full concentration, much less doing eccentric exercises with weights in a similar position. My stance is more of a warrior stance just for balance as I worry as much about staying upright as I do good form.
So you are just past halfway done and your arms feel like Jell-O. There isn't a more opportune time in the world for PLYO PUSH UPS. At this point there is no way I can even get my hands off the ground, so I basically do a modified standard push up which I was much more capable of doing in the beginning of the workout.
After only being able to do 6 chair-assisted vaulter pull ups we are getting to the home stretch, which involved tricep skyfers. For some reason there is no way I can finish this exercise without getting a pins and needles feeling in both arms as my circulation feels like it's cut off. At least Sean is struggling through some of these workouts, which makes me feel better. I'm not as vascular as he is, though.
Once the burnout is over, and thank god the burnout isn't as grueling as the incinerator burnout, I feel absolutely wasted. I have been able to increase pull up reps, and I have added some weight on some of the workouts, so I know I'm progressing, but I can't wait to go back to The Challenge in two weeks when I hit the home stretch of the mass cycle.
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